More on the Deletion of Israel Articles

by Wiki02138 on October 5, 2010

in Middle East,Wikibias

Escape

The deletions of articles about terror attacks in Jordan and Israel that we have discussed here previously were brought up on the Project Israel discussion board.

I would like to add my 2 cents by pointing out that the three deleted articles are about real terror attacks in which real people died.  Wikipedia  has at least 40 articles about terrorist plots that never happened.  There is a Category:Failed terrorist attempts.  It includes plots that were bungled or discovered in time by the police (thank God, and thanks to all the law enforcement officers who do good work.)  These articles cover failed terror plots in Egypt, Australia, the United States, Britain and elsewhere.  If it is like most categories, there are more such articles not yet added to the  category.

It appears that Wikipedia editors are deleting articles about terror attacks in Israel, but not deleting articles about terror attacks in other countries, not even articles about terror attacks that never happened.

The bias seems clear.

{ 7 comments… read them below or add one }

JJ October 6, 2010 at 7:28 am

Yes, and they’re still at it.

Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 October 2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2010_October_2

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red540 October 6, 2010 at 12:08 pm

so? its a free wiki, just register anew account and go help tip the scales to keeping the topic article

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Wiki02138 October 6, 2010 at 7:44 pm

red540 is a pretty obvious sock puppet of Wikipedia editor Supreme Deliciousness. Take a look at the deletion discussion at the link JJ gives, above. SP, Tarc, and Nableezy work as a coordinated tag-team.

“Wikibias canvassing blog bring this up again [4] 1st comment “JJ” also links here.–Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 17:56, 6 October 2010 (UTC)”

*Per WP:MEATPUPPET, it is quite a valid issue, and not to be cavalierly swept under the rug. Tarc (talk) 20:05, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

*Given the contribution history of the user that claims this is irrelevant I would say this is highly relevant. Only edits made in the last 2 weeks come to pages that this blog has canvassed users to vote at. nableezy – 20:29, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

To be clear. We at Wikibias are not urging new or would-be editors to participate in a deletion discussion. We are shining a light into the dark corners of Wikipedia so that the world can see how it works.

In this case, editor SD posts a suggestion that readers of this blog should “register anew account and go help tip the scales to keeping the topic article.” If any new editors show up, the members of this tag-team, Tarc, SP and Nableezy will weigh in to use the arrival of a new editor as a reason to delete the article.

Don’t fall for this trap.

What we are urging new and would-be editors to do is to get a Wikipedia account, and learn the system by editing on some noncontroversial topic that they know something about. Once they learn the ropes, they should approach controversial topics slowly, to avoid falling into traps like the one Tarc, Nableezy and SP are laying here.

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Wiki02138 October 6, 2010 at 7:48 pm

Just realized theat the tag-team has a fourth comment.

*”It doesnt actually say “go here and vote”, but it comes very close. It provides links to discussions and subtly pushes people to vote. Some comments are less subtle than others, with one saying “just register anew [sic] account and go help tip the scales to keeping the topic article”. nableezy – 20:54, 6 October 2010 (UTC)”

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wikistar October 11, 2010 at 4:30 pm

It seems the argument that there is meatpuppetry has a lot of traction. Of course, any argument at all has traction when the numbers are so slanted against supporters of the Jewish state.

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Wiki02138 October 11, 2010 at 6:30 pm

It is indeed a matter of the domination of Wikipedia by anti-Israel editors.

And the fact that they are indefatigable. Here you will see the 4, count them, 4 debates over the deletion of a single article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=June+2010+West+Bank+shooting

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Fulano October 20, 2010 at 9:57 pm

Who said Nazis and Arab Palestinians can not work together? Not only was it a proven fact in WW2, but today, it’s “alive and well” on wikipedia and on other internet socal activities.

Hitler’s racist attitudes against Arabs (as inferior race just as Jews) never stopped him from forming an alliance with the Grand Mufti.

Herr Noleander, Heil!

Take for example Wikpedia’s editor by the nemae of ‘Noleander’ (or is it Herr Neulander?) who has dedicated his work to defame all Jews and all Juadism/ Judaism related issues.
Among his “creations” are: 1) ‘Judaism and violence,’ (trying to potray this peaceful nation victim of historic and present violence as “pro violence.” cherry-picking material, expanding on what he wants to push forward, mistranslating Biblical text, all into one POV [point of view] trend to make sure jis message of “Judaism and violence” come out strong, inflammatory and dirty. 2) ‘Jews and slavery’ (rewriting history as if they were “in line” with the Arab-Islamic or Europen-Christian mass enslavers, basing his “work” on anti-Jewish anti-white Nation Of Islam’s Louis Farrakhan’s material) and ‘Criticism of the Talmud’ (quoting of course all the unrelated/out-of-context supposed “text” which ahve been refuted “ages” ago. 3) ‘Racism in Israel’ he created that page with a clear anti-Jewish slant (no, not just anti-Zionist), and incorporating unrelated subjects such as refusal of accepting the controversial obscure group Black Hebrews in Israel supposedly being based on “racism.”

In fact, Herr ‘Noleander’ has taking about all or most “issues” that any Nazi hate site is hammering about.

Nableezy

A Palestinian Arab, very much anti-Israel, will push for falsified information will call any non-lefty Israeli website a “unreliable source…” eventhough such sites are quoted and often relied upon by major news organizations and common reliable sources.

Worth mentioning that he is against ant non-Arab minority (such as Copts and others) that are trying to raise their issuers against Atabization and ond other vital subjects. He’s a true racist Arab supremacist.

In the course of his anti-Israel activities on wikipedia, he managed to become some kind of a “leader,” in anti-Israel Arab-lobbying.

His way of “combatting” those that try dare defend little Israel against Goliath Islamic propaganda are basically these:
1) Edit warring, will revert edits he doesn’t like, then will call one of his buddies in his team of Arab lobby such as: Tiamut, Malik Shabbaz, Carwill, Zero000, Bali Ultimate and others. and will try to discredit info by claiming: Sources are “not reliable,” or another vague claim of “OR,” meaning “original research” eventhough it is based on normal sources. As three edits are usually accepted in edit-wars, his buddies (in Sweden, Ohio, etc.) will switch gears to make sure they dominate wikipedia to their POV.

If he gets tired and loses the argument, he tries his favorite tool: Blocking the user, either by claiming he/she is “vandalizing,” the site, but even his most favorite is to claim the user is a sockpuppet of another one, whom he had problems with before, this is usually successfully carried out without much real checking by wikipedia administrators that are supposed to check for IP usage etc, but he uses the argument that “if someone defends a matetial or opinion by an already a banned user, they “must” be the “same person.” Wikipedia adminsitrators so far did not “get” it that his push are totally unreliable and motivated by his one side goal: To dominate anti-Israel Palestinianism by demonization of all Israel does/has/associated with.

In fact, any push to block a user by Nableezy (which are numerous) should be discredited.

From that Arab-Islamic anti Israel lobby, many are transparent in their blatant anti-Jewish activities, for example, Zero0000 (Arab Muslim) will defend material by (Herr) noleander in defaming Judaism, not related to fending “Palestine.”

Wikipedia have not checked if the anti Jewish Nazi users are related for example: Stonemason98 and Noleander.

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